>> yes, absolutely, it's ackman's fault and johnson's fault. if you look at mike allman who is making a heroic effort to save the company. he's doing everything he can and i wish him the best of luck there, he's put a decent bit of his own money in the company as well, i believe a million dollars of his own money and he is he's clearly doing everything he can, and i fair it's too late. you look what we've seen in the last couple months. we've seen some marginal improvement, well, marginal improvement in october, great improvement in november look at the comp. a year ago the company was, company sales were in freefall and those comps, better year over year are still way below two years ago, so, we'll see what happens here, but i think it's too little, too late. stuart: charles, does this fit into one of the themes of the programs, which is there's a rush to on-line retailing and floor traffic in the brooks and mortar stores is just not there like it used to be? in if a kt-- in fact, it's declining. does this fit the pattern, at least one of the